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just can't seem to get the economy going. lots of efforts and a ton of help from the state of chicken. why can't you get this back on track? >> like every urban area in the country, we are suffering in the foreclosure. we live and die by property taxes and sales taxes and they are all coming in shorter than anticipated. basically because the property values in detroit. it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order. in order to grow our economy. gerri: i have heard that before. we need more time to get our fiscal house in order. wouldn't it make more sense? i know that you are probably playing all kinds of different groups. all kinds of different political groups who want to have their voice heard. wouldn't it make more sense to come in and have the state on this thing -- the thing that we will fix this thing and get it done. >> unfortunately, they can't unilaterally change them. so the financial emergency manager coming into detroit, setting us back a y
just can't seem to get the economy going. lots of efforts and a ton of help from the state of chicken. why can't you get this back on track? >> like every urban area in the country, we are suffering in the foreclosure. we live and die by property taxes and sales taxes and they are all coming in shorter than anticipated. basically because the property values in detroit. it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order....
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economy. >> more in 2012 than they otherwise would have gotten. >> absolutely. >> maybe after the first of the year with all these folk, see more spending on luxury items as well. people probably spend some. >> we hope so. >> sue, thanks. >>> guys, we are watching shares of facebook today the social media giant unveiling a new tweak to its instant messaging app. facebook up just about 2%. you don't even have to be a member to use this new app and julie boorstin is in los angeles with the three things you need to know this deal. hi, julia. >> hi, sue. well, facebook is continuing its big push to make money on mobile users by offering its messenger app to billions of people around the world with phones and no longer limiting that app to facebook users. here's the deal. first, mobile messenger is a free app for texting, group chat and photo sharing with no per-text fees. just carrier's regular data costs. doesn't yet yield direct revenues to facebook but it is serving as a gateway to join the soc
economy. >> more in 2012 than they otherwise would have gotten. >> absolutely. >> maybe after the first of the year with all these folk, see more spending on luxury items as well. people probably spend some. >> we hope so. >> sue, thanks. >>> guys, we are watching shares of facebook today the social media giant unveiling a new tweak to its instant messaging app. facebook up just about 2%. you don't even have to be a member to use this new app and julie...
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this economy wants to take off again. what's holding it back right now is the political uncertainty about whether we're going to go over the cliff and each day that clicks off, we are holding back retail sales during the christmas season and that's just crazy. >> senator, on entitlements, the other side of the equation here if the tax rates have gotten what the president wants, which is a raise to 39.6%. the three national unions have that come out with an ad campaign are targeting two senators. you are one of them. as well as two republican congressman as well. they are saying don't touch social security or medicare or other entitlements. would you be open to touching them in a deal? >> interest groups have every right to advocate but we've seen the lack of power that some of the negative attacks that were spent against a lot of candidates. i think medicare is a great program. it needs to be protected. but anyone that denies the math around these programs is just disconnected to reality. the fact is, when i was a kid, th
this economy wants to take off again. what's holding it back right now is the political uncertainty about whether we're going to go over the cliff and each day that clicks off, we are holding back retail sales during the christmas season and that's just crazy. >> senator, on entitlements, the other side of the equation here if the tax rates have gotten what the president wants, which is a raise to 39.6%. the three national unions have that come out with an ad campaign are targeting two...
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the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have you. we need your help today. >> you know what makes me sad about that twitter discussion. >> what's that? >> those were 140 character bites more substantive than almost any of the tax discussions in the media or in washington. they were beating us in 140 characters. >> the president's twitter -- you have to -- in too many abbreviations but i'm getting ahead of myself here. let's talk about those substantive tweets which is to say, i want to talk about the closing of loopholes. i spoke with grover norquist about this magic math that the republicans are doing. let's say they put closing loopholes and deductions on the table. the issue is whether anybody is going to go for this. the deductions that are there are very popular. the ones that would get the most reve
the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have you. we need your help today. >> you know what makes me sad about that twitter discussion. >> what's that? >> those were 140 character bites more substantive...
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if they resolve the fiscal cliff and the economy remains growing, although kind of sluggish -- here is another scenario, we have a loss of revenue from growth money. we are in a situation where we will prepare for the best, hope for the best, but anticipate a negative growth in the economy. liz: there is actually what we are calling the twinkie of fact. it is a negative bidder twinkie affect. there is a hostess plant where you live. how many jobs will that drop-off, as far as employment is concerned? >> a few hundred. clearly, any kind of negative constriction of the marketplace impacts us. even if it is a negative state. clearly, here at home, the good news for us is we are going at a 3.5% rate now economically. we are creating jobs. we have a healthy economy and a great quality of life which is attracting people and businesses to utah. we do not have control over what happens in washington, d.c. we are being very cautious as we go forward waiting to see resolution, out of washington, d.c. liz: i saw a quote of something you said. i thought it was perfect for washington. compromise sh
if they resolve the fiscal cliff and the economy remains growing, although kind of sluggish -- here is another scenario, we have a loss of revenue from growth money. we are in a situation where we will prepare for the best, hope for the best, but anticipate a negative growth in the economy. liz: there is actually what we are calling the twinkie of fact. it is a negative bidder twinkie affect. there is a hostess plant where you live. how many jobs will that drop-off, as far as employment is...
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our company has figured out how to survive in this economy and how to be successful in this economy. the first thing we'll want to do with any income that i have is tax it? that's uncertainty. >> kristen welker is at the white house. critics said the president wasn't pushing a bald deal focusing more on taxes than spending. now the white house is out with its formal debt proposal which mitch mcconnell says he laughed at when tim geithner showed to him. what's so funny? >> reporter: to put the plan into context, first of all, this is the president's opening bid. and essentially comes after he's feeling emboldened by his re-election knowing there's not a whole lot in here that republicans will like off the bat. so just to take a look he it specifics, $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $400 billion in entitlement cuts. $50 billion in new stimulus. and then a proposal to end congress' control of the debt limit. republicans on the hill are essentially calling this plan a nonstarter. house speaker john boehner saying this is not serious. cantor echoing those remarks. they say they want to see few
our company has figured out how to survive in this economy and how to be successful in this economy. the first thing we'll want to do with any income that i have is tax it? that's uncertainty. >> kristen welker is at the white house. critics said the president wasn't pushing a bald deal focusing more on taxes than spending. now the white house is out with its formal debt proposal which mitch mcconnell says he laughed at when tim geithner showed to him. what's so funny? >> reporter:...
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with a few verbal jabs of his own saying, quote, if the president really wants to avoid sending the economy over the fiscal cliff he has done nothing to demonstrate it. but even as the democrats pound him from the left, he is taking punches from the right. the leader of the right's rebellion is, of course, grover norquist. he said the president has installed himself at loyalty, and boehner is not being sufficiently revolutionary. >> he thinks someone made him king. he doesn't have the mandate that he thinks he does. i think he takes us over the cliff because he has got blinders on. he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> jennifer: or where he stands? where the president stands? he's leader of the free world for goodness sakes. but back to the tea party senator jim demint, who was riding first class on the tea party express, he tweeted that boehner's propose is an $800 billion tax hike that will destroy jobs and allow politicians to spend even more. not so fast, demint. there is yet another front in this revolution. conservative columnist jennifer ruben dismissed demint's rhetoric
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>> that will have a negative impact on the california economy and on the u.s. economy. so ron is right. there are parts of the u.s. economy are certainly improving, but there are other parts that have not yet felt a vice that's squeezing on them. >> all right. we got to go. the bell is going to ring shortly, i feel like. we got to go. thank you, everybody. appreciate it. we are heading toward the close and, really, the market is where it was before all the rhetoric came out on the cliff. the dow up 32 points right how it. >> we've heard some democrats made maye be willing to dive off that fiscal cliff. our next guest certainly is not following suit. find out what cuts he's willing to make. >>> another potential cost saver could be ditching the paper dollar in favor of a dollar coin. congress is considering it. could our debt literally kill the dollar bill? we'll talk about that. >>> and later on, i'll be talking exclusively to two of the nation's top ceo on how the fiscal cliff will impact their businesses. that's later on in "the closing bell." stay with us. back in a
>> that will have a negative impact on the california economy and on the u.s. economy. so ron is right. there are parts of the u.s. economy are certainly improving, but there are other parts that have not yet felt a vice that's squeezing on them. >> all right. we got to go. the bell is going to ring shortly, i feel like. we got to go. thank you, everybody. appreciate it. we are heading toward the close and, really, the market is where it was before all the rhetoric came out on the...
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i want to stimulate the economy. this adds a new dimension to it. he gave his back of the hand to boehner's -- for the debt -- this is a rejuvenated president adding things to the table, not taking them off. >> it is pretty amazing. adding stimulus to the table means exactly what you just said eliot. it means emphasizing jobs and growth instead of deficit reduction. that's something that's going to make liberals in washington extremely happy and the whole package including this debt ceiling, getting rid of congress's authority over the debt ceiling is something -- it is just politically strong. it is going to make his voters feel emboldened. they're going to give them something to rally around instead of a discussion on numbers and how much are we going to give to entitlements. he said to his base and to his voters who just re-elected him by a reasonably handy margin, we've got something to fight for here. >> eliot: i don't want to go off on the conversation exclusively about the debt ceiling but he's right about saying to congress you pass the spen
i want to stimulate the economy. this adds a new dimension to it. he gave his back of the hand to boehner's -- for the debt -- this is a rejuvenated president adding things to the table, not taking them off. >> it is pretty amazing. adding stimulus to the table means exactly what you just said eliot. it means emphasizing jobs and growth instead of deficit reduction. that's something that's going to make liberals in washington extremely happy and the whole package including this debt...
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a lot of positive figures out there in the economy. does a second term present a great opportunity for him to follow through on wall street reform? because there are some in the community that think he was a disappointment in that regard. >> first of all about the economy, my state right after the auto rescue, my state's unemployment rate was 10.6%. now it's down to 6.9%. that's because of a lot of things. partly trade enforcement that you've talked about. and partly the auto rescue. all those things together. i think the president knows that we need to continue to make sure the regulations are strong. part of that is done by his administration and part of it is by congress. we know he will work with senator merkley, senator schumer, people who have been involved on these issues. and i'm optimistic we move forward. >> thank you for joining us tonight. >>> coming up, senator mitch mcconnell rails against reform, but john mccain doesn't agree. michigan senator debbie stabenow on filibuster reform. >>> later senator john kerry delivers an
a lot of positive figures out there in the economy. does a second term present a great opportunity for him to follow through on wall street reform? because there are some in the community that think he was a disappointment in that regard. >> first of all about the economy, my state right after the auto rescue, my state's unemployment rate was 10.6%. now it's down to 6.9%. that's because of a lot of things. partly trade enforcement that you've talked about. and partly the auto rescue. all...
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not a pro on the economy. i think we need to invest and there's a sweet spot comes up in infrastructure in particular that offers a real opportunity. >> jay, my question. as far as when you talk about that sweet spot, if we're going to start seeing inflation through the roof, i think a lot of people expect it if we come it to a deal with the fiscal cliff and get economic growth and get people investing, inflation will go up. so that is going to be a problem for american families. like you said, there are places that business can succeed. is it government-infused money to get there, or is it going to be actual, real, american dollars in there? >> susan, that's really the opportunity. first of all, i don't think inflation is a concern for years. in order for inflation to be a concern it it has to get into the wage cycle. we're far from that. the needs are clear. ports, roads, transport rail and plus protection against extreme weather. on the other side demand. the demand for infrastructure investments isle comin
not a pro on the economy. i think we need to invest and there's a sweet spot comes up in infrastructure in particular that offers a real opportunity. >> jay, my question. as far as when you talk about that sweet spot, if we're going to start seeing inflation through the roof, i think a lot of people expect it if we come it to a deal with the fiscal cliff and get economic growth and get people investing, inflation will go up. so that is going to be a problem for american families. like you...
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our economy is a lot better. we can still go a long way. i just don't believe that there is the makeup of a great deal, because you can't trust anything any of these folks say. this is one of the reasons why i believe, tom, that the republicans haven't detailed out exactly what deductions are we talking about, what loopholes are they talking about. they won't come clean with the american people on this. it's all in these vague generalities. now, president obama is not interested in taking negotiations further until republicans put a rate increase on the table. and this is where boehner is running into trouble. do you think they'll eventually put a rate increase on the table? >> they're either going to do that or take us into a very dangerous fiscal situation over the cliff. this is a loosy in the football situation and the president says, i'm not going to kick again until you show me some serious commitment. and keep in mind, this is the republican leadership that supported the $718 billion of savings in medicare that was part of the health
our economy is a lot better. we can still go a long way. i just don't believe that there is the makeup of a great deal, because you can't trust anything any of these folks say. this is one of the reasons why i believe, tom, that the republicans haven't detailed out exactly what deductions are we talking about, what loopholes are they talking about. they won't come clean with the american people on this. it's all in these vague generalities. now, president obama is not interested in taking...
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>> this is the new economy. factory jobs weren't good jobs either. the reason they became the middle class jobs we know because people organized. >> what's the next move? >> it's a movement. they are not giving up. they are going to keep working and i spoke to johnathan weston and they are hoping that more workers got energized by seeing this happen and by seeing everybody go back in today and not face reprize sal. >> so the next phase is what? >> i'm hoping for more strikes, ed. >> you're hoping for more strikes? >> yeah. >> did the 98% have anything to do with this? >> it crystallized something already going on in this country that people knew about where the wealth was going. they knew we have seen it go to the people at the top and the people at the bottom were getting squeezed. productivity has gone up, they are working harder and longer. >> there's been no organized union that has gone nd
>> this is the new economy. factory jobs weren't good jobs either. the reason they became the middle class jobs we know because people organized. >> what's the next move? >> it's a movement. they are not giving up. they are going to keep working and i spoke to johnathan weston and they are hoping that more workers got energized by seeing this happen and by seeing everybody go back in today and not face reprize sal. >> so the next phase is what? >> i'm hoping for...
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again, the economy is doing a little better. the unemployment numbers have been a little better, but what's the impact? >> 2 million people -- >> 2 million would lose. >> -- would lose income. here's the thing. there's a lot of talk of these people are looking or not looking for jobs, they're just taking this check. that's not the case. there's only one job for every three folks looking for a job. so there literally is not a job available for two of those people. so they have this income, unemployment insurance which keeps them in the economy, a functioning part of the economy, so they can spend the money. so the economic policy institute went ahead and extrapolated. if you were to keep this $30 billion cost of extended unemployment insurance, actually, that will pump another $15 billion to $18 billion into the economy because these folks are spending money. and that's what fuels our economy. >> some of the people who argue that we should go off the fiscal cliff, that it will push them to negotiate a sort of more thoughtful deal
again, the economy is doing a little better. the unemployment numbers have been a little better, but what's the impact? >> 2 million people -- >> 2 million would lose. >> -- would lose income. here's the thing. there's a lot of talk of these people are looking or not looking for jobs, they're just taking this check. that's not the case. there's only one job for every three folks looking for a job. so there literally is not a job available for two of those people. so they have...
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as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall over a cliff over, isn't it? who cares if the super rich pay a little bit more tax? they don't care. it's not going to affect their ability to invest. >> well, piers, you've just outlined the president's narrative and robert gave you the president's sense of entitlement and mandate that he thinks he has. but let's go back four years when the president was polling not at 52% but at 70% after just being elected, beating a war hero, and he thought he could do anything and he -- the country would go a
as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow...
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it is a product he comes out with is good, if it is fair and just, and moves the countries economy, and starts declining the deficit then it's good. and the process will have worked. if it isn't, then we can revisit the process and say the process was flawed. >> the process getting there is the hard part. we could all in our heads draw up a deal but he has had people over the last couple of weeks, republicans taking risk. boehner took a risk, tom cole took a risk and he undercut them. he made them look stupid with what he did yesterday. they feel furious, they feel burned so you have to help your people along. you have to make it more possible. and so that's why i think you just got to what he offered was not only a balanced deal that would be fine if he offered something balance, he offered something even worse from the republican point of view than what he had offered a couple years ago. so he started with drawing things off the tab and it seemed like chest beats. >> we just went through an election, david. the republicans are the ones who are for medicare kurkts they really are. so w
it is a product he comes out with is good, if it is fair and just, and moves the countries economy, and starts declining the deficit then it's good. and the process will have worked. if it isn't, then we can revisit the process and say the process was flawed. >> the process getting there is the hard part. we could all in our heads draw up a deal but he has had people over the last couple of weeks, republicans taking risk. boehner took a risk, tom cole took a risk and he undercut them. he...
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and when the economy stalls, when the economy sputers, when people lose their jobs, they know which party to blame, the party of high taxes. let's don't be the party of just almost as high taxes. >> some people have called that the doomsday scenario. others have said it's a strategic retreat on the republicans' behalf. would you vote present for that in the senate if it comes up? >> i don't think we have to in the senate. i'm happy not to filibuster it and i will announce tonight on your show that i will work with harry reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants because then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> i want to ask you one quickie. your friend and mine, senator jim demint, resigning from the senate. going to take over as head of the heritage foundation. he is a great free market defender of capitalism. what do you make of jim demint leaveliing the senate? >> i think there's two ways to look t a it. the way i look at it, i've jokingly said he's going to a better place. but i really am serious about that
and when the economy stalls, when the economy sputers, when people lose their jobs, they know which party to blame, the party of high taxes. let's don't be the party of just almost as high taxes. >> some people have called that the doomsday scenario. others have said it's a strategic retreat on the republicans' behalf. would you vote present for that in the senate if it comes up? >> i don't think we have to in the senate. i'm happy not to filibuster it and i will announce tonight on...
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that will hurt our economy and cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to revert the fiscal cliff. to replace the sequestered and paid way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our countries debt crisis and get our economy going again and create jobs. right now, all eyes are on the white house. our country does not need a victory lap, it needs leadership. it is time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they are really going to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [inaudible question] >> we have outlined very specific proposals that we passed in last year's budget and the budget before. we know what the venue is. what we do not know is what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [inaudible question] >> i am
that will hurt our economy and cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to revert the fiscal cliff. to replace the sequestered and paid way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our countries debt crisis and get our economy going again and create jobs. right now, all...
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>> i think it's a thesis that goes beyond the developed economies. i think it goes into the emerging markets themselves. uk company. latin america, great company doing well. 52 week high today. >> murph, a trade? >> you have to be careful with the travel companies. expedia, pricelines. these things up 700%, 600%, you wouldn't want to chase those. gun stocks, there could be more room there. >> it's been a wild ride for gold. metal rebounding from yesterday's big selloff. its biggest drop in a month. with the fiscal cliff looming, is there a play to be made? commodities ding dennis gartman of the gartman letter joins us on the fast line. good to have you on. >> always good to be here, judge. >> what are the implications of the fiscal cliff to gold? trying to figure out what even caused this $30 move we saw yesterday. >> two questions. i'm not sure the fiscal cliff is terribly important when it comes to the gold market. i think what's far more important is the advent of continued expansion of the reserves by the fed. by the bank of -- by the ecb. and, p
>> i think it's a thesis that goes beyond the developed economies. i think it goes into the emerging markets themselves. uk company. latin america, great company doing well. 52 week high today. >> murph, a trade? >> you have to be careful with the travel companies. expedia, pricelines. these things up 700%, 600%, you wouldn't want to chase those. gun stocks, there could be more room there. >> it's been a wild ride for gold. metal rebounding from yesterday's big selloff....
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it has done nothing to take our economy into a better shape. it was the bush tax cuts and the wars that drove us into this huge deficit that we have now. not the republicans' entitlements for this country and then we have neglected this country and the people of this country. we could have created jobs 10 times over. you have vets that are going to be coming back here, and where are the jobs for them? we have focused so much on these wars we got quagmired into, obama has been trying to get us out of them for the last four years. all the republicans have done for the last four years is say no, no, no to any kind of -- and obama has tried to push through bills to cut taxes for job creators, fo. host: for small businesses? caller: yes, for small businesses. host: here is reaction from senator lindsey gramm. he says this -- a republican from new jersey, go ahead. caller: i am calling in reference to this fiscal cliff. at this point, all the seniors are already in trouble. they are not going to get but a little increase. congress will automatically
it has done nothing to take our economy into a better shape. it was the bush tax cuts and the wars that drove us into this huge deficit that we have now. not the republicans' entitlements for this country and then we have neglected this country and the people of this country. we could have created jobs 10 times over. you have vets that are going to be coming back here, and where are the jobs for them? we have focused so much on these wars we got quagmired into, obama has been trying to get us...
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the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. host: up next on the proposal that was offered by the white house on the fiscal cliff. this is jon. independent line. hello. caller: hello. first of all, happy holidays. not sure. happy holidays, anyway. second of all, you people are journalists. you people are true journalists. i watch every day of the week. and one more thing, that fool that called yesterday, must be a product of inbreeding the way -- i don't know how they let him in. host: before we go back to yesterday, what do you think of the proposal today? >> caller: well, you don't know what they do behind closed doors. what they put out to the public is one thing and from both parties. they both have a little spin here and there. politicians to me, ha, i could tell you a story that happened when i was a kid in the 1950's. i'm originally from new york and some woman asked a politics who was running, why should i vote for you? and he said outright, because time biggest crook in this neighborhood and that guy was always voted i
the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. host: up next on the proposal that was offered by the white house on the fiscal cliff. this is jon. independent line. hello. caller: hello. first of all, happy holidays. not sure. happy holidays, anyway. second of all, you people are journalists. you people are true journalists. i watch every day of the week. and one more thing, that fool that called yesterday, must be a product of inbreeding the way -- i don't know...
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economy to tell you about. it grew faster than expected in the third quarter. gdp expanding at an annual rate of 2.7% topping last month's estimate of 2%. our senior economics reporter steve leisman is here. what struck you about this report? i remember the day before yesterday you were saying don't expect that kind of performance in the fourth quarter. >> exactly. i'll take it. we can get to 2.7%. it is better than 2%. i don't love how we got there. big parts of that was government spending at the federal side. also you had inventories go up. what you didn't have is -- we marked down consumer spending and business spending was negative. i want to do 3%, 3.5%, 4% with strong consumer spending and strong business spending. those will be a sustainable path for the economy. >> can't let you go without a little fed speak. mr. dudley, new york fed chief, speaking this morning. >> some important comments. hurricane sandy was directly in his district so he made some comments about it. he said that the damage was worse than first anticipated. that's something we've bee
economy to tell you about. it grew faster than expected in the third quarter. gdp expanding at an annual rate of 2.7% topping last month's estimate of 2%. our senior economics reporter steve leisman is here. what struck you about this report? i remember the day before yesterday you were saying don't expect that kind of performance in the fourth quarter. >> exactly. i'll take it. we can get to 2.7%. it is better than 2%. i don't love how we got there. big parts of that was government...
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if they bring a deal that is too drastic of a stop it is not going to be good for the economy either. >> the bottom line is they are going through hoops to avoid what is core problematic for their respective party dna. the republicans don't want to raise rates. so they will go through all sorts of hoops to essentially get as much if not more revenue and effectively screwing the red chief and more. they don't wnt to address entitlement spending and even slowing the growth. it would be equated with throwing granny off the cliff. and there in lies the casm. we have to close it. >> we do have to close it. if you are looking at all of these programs, are they even going to reduce the deficit? if they have the combined affect of slowing down the economy, the deficit reduction doesn't take place. they have to be more pro active and they have to get aggressive. but none of these guys understand economics. you are talking about a bunch of lawyers. you are talking about a bunch of people that study political science. you don't have anybody in congress that understands economic and they are foll
if they bring a deal that is too drastic of a stop it is not going to be good for the economy either. >> the bottom line is they are going through hoops to avoid what is core problematic for their respective party dna. the republicans don't want to raise rates. so they will go through all sorts of hoops to essentially get as much if not more revenue and effectively screwing the red chief and more. they don't wnt to address entitlement spending and even slowing the growth. it would be...
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tax hikes in january, can this economy handle it based on this report? >> we're going to have taxes which will be roughly the same under bill clinton, we did fine in that, we'll do fine. what i'm worried about is the defense cuts. they're really serious. but we'll get by with a few months of higher taxes until the democrats and republicans start playing nice with each other. but the fiscal cliff, i think, is very overrated as a danger. heather: does it concern you that this seems to be the new norm when we look at the numbers and say, hey, this is better? >> it's very discouraging. we're stuck at a stable but depressing plateau. meth -- heather: ben stein, thank you s much. we will be right back. we understan at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. jon: chris
tax hikes in january, can this economy handle it based on this report? >> we're going to have taxes which will be roughly the same under bill clinton, we did fine in that, we'll do fine. what i'm worried about is the defense cuts. they're really serious. but we'll get by with a few months of higher taxes until the democrats and republicans start playing nice with each other. but the fiscal cliff, i think, is very overrated as a danger. heather: does it concern you that this seems to be...
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what else do not feds see in the economy, peter. empleghts overall the feds saw the economy growing at a measured pace in recent weeks but it said that some business context said that they were worried about uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most places and with the holidays coming up. it said that the outlook for retail sales was mostly upbeat. shep? >> shepard: what's with the sirens? is the place on fire? >> no. there is escort going out here from the white house. >> you don't have much clout there. >> the vice president apparently is leaving. >> shepard: he might as well. what will the fed do with today's report? it has a meeting in a couple of weeks, you know. >> this was okay report. more importantly it was not strong enough for the fed to back off stimulus programs keeping intere
what else do not feds see in the economy, peter. empleghts overall the feds saw the economy growing at a measured pace in recent weeks but it said that some business context said that they were worried about uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most...
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if that continues into december for the economy, that's a bad sign. focus less on the employment report than consumer confidence as a factor in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> these numbers are still too high, yes. we are going in the right direction and that is clear month after month. we have an unemployment crisis in this country. the casey foundation announced this week youth unemployment is higher than it's ever been since world war ii and these young people are out of the job market, staying out of the job market. this impacts them for life. if we were a serious country we would be having a discussion about unemployment. this should not take all the urgency away from that. >> and as ayman said, the numbers sort of -- they don't tell an accurate picture in terms of what's happening with unemployment in the country. it's the lowest in four years, but actually -- >> partly because people -- >> you want the number to be high eer because more people ar in the work force. look at where income is in this country, no means the middle class and working
if that continues into december for the economy, that's a bad sign. focus less on the employment report than consumer confidence as a factor in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> these numbers are still too high, yes. we are going in the right direction and that is clear month after month. we have an unemployment crisis in this country. the casey foundation announced this week youth unemployment is higher than it's ever been since world war ii and these young people are out of the job...
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for moving the economy forward. president obama, of course, said on election night that he wanted to sit down with mitt romney and do exactly that. and carney was also asked again if president obama would be offering romney any sort of cabinet position. and carney said he did not expect that to happen. i think this was in large part about optics. striking a tone of bipartisanship after what was really a grueling campaign season. helping these two former rivals to essentially move forward. also, in turn, helping the country to move forward. >> is there going to be an internal release of a picture or something like that of the two-minute lunch today? we only have that, you know, little bit of video of mitt romney arriving. >> reporter: yes. that is what we are hoping for. we're hoping for a picture. we're hoping for a few details about what specifically happened. the white house has essentially said they're not going to read out this entire lunch. we asked them for a transcript. doesn't look like we're going to get th
for moving the economy forward. president obama, of course, said on election night that he wanted to sit down with mitt romney and do exactly that. and carney was also asked again if president obama would be offering romney any sort of cabinet position. and carney said he did not expect that to happen. i think this was in large part about optics. striking a tone of bipartisanship after what was really a grueling campaign season. helping these two former rivals to essentially move forward. also,...
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listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now, all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats, to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. with that i'll take a few questions. >> speaker boehner, why will you not tell democrats what specific spending cuts you would like to see, especially within en titlements? >> it's been very clear over the last year-and-a-half, i've talked t
listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to...
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economy. -- >> what is the way to do that and not hurt the u.s. economy? >> we need really, really fundamental tax reform. we also need entitlement reform, and we also need to use cost-benefit analysis. what shocked me about what the president put out is the cost- benefit analysis that they put out. they were proposing things that were twice the costs of their own benefits. i am sorry. if you run a government like that, you will go bankrupt. the rest of it is an exercise. we may as well go off the cliff or not. it really does not matter. if it is not january 1, it is not going to be too long from now before we start taking a sharp pencil to things. >> i sympathize with what larry is saying. what i am proposing, and what we are actually debating here is not to solve all of our problems ad infinitum into the future. there should be to solve this over the next decade so we get to a stable place. that is very doable in the context of the debate we are having now. if we get $3 trillion and debate the arithmetic, i think that is using reasonable assumptions abou
economy. -- >> what is the way to do that and not hurt the u.s. economy? >> we need really, really fundamental tax reform. we also need entitlement reform, and we also need to use cost-benefit analysis. what shocked me about what the president put out is the cost- benefit analysis that they put out. they were proposing things that were twice the costs of their own benefits. i am sorry. if you run a government like that, you will go bankrupt. the rest of it is an exercise. we may as...
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it could be damage for economy struggling to recover. takes us further down the road for what i think is the news of the day. argument over the debt ceiling today. that is one point of the republican lench in the dole. some machiavellian misstep made. he wanted the democrats to be embarrassed. and have to force a vote and propose it. reed said go ahead. put them in position to filibuster. to speak to the judge's point, if people stand here and simply say no to the idea of raising the tax rates on the republican side, it will damage the republican brand. the republicans have to get the best possible deal. in the spirit of the president's problem and he was intent on spending. not on cutting spending. but on taxes. that is how you use the president's position against him. to say no goes to bevy of polls that show republicans have the lion's share. >> bret: isn't that fair to say the president hasn't poe cussed at owl on cutting spending? the white house says they agreed to a $1 trillion in discretionary spending cuts. proposal to achieve $
it could be damage for economy struggling to recover. takes us further down the road for what i think is the news of the day. argument over the debt ceiling today. that is one point of the republican lench in the dole. some machiavellian misstep made. he wanted the democrats to be embarrassed. and have to force a vote and propose it. reed said go ahead. put them in position to filibuster. to speak to the judge's point, if people stand here and simply say no to the idea of raising the tax rates...
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obviously globally, the economy is still soft. europe is going to be in the doldrums for quite some time, asia is not charging forward and some of the emerging markets are not charging forward as quickly as they were maybe a few years ago, but i think all of you recognized and many of you told me is that everybody's looking to america, because they understand if we're able to put forward a long-term agenda for growth and prosperity that's broad-based here in the united states, that confidence will not just increase here in the united states, it will increase globally and we can get the virtuous cycle that i think all of us have been waiting for and want to see. what's holding us back right now ironically is a lot of stuff that's going on in this town, and i know that many of you have come down here to try to see, is there a way that we can break through the log jam, and go ahead and get things done and i'm here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. i know you've gotten a lot of briefings but let me describe
obviously globally, the economy is still soft. europe is going to be in the doldrums for quite some time, asia is not charging forward and some of the emerging markets are not charging forward as quickly as they were maybe a few years ago, but i think all of you recognized and many of you told me is that everybody's looking to america, because they understand if we're able to put forward a long-term agenda for growth and prosperity that's broad-based here in the united states, that confidence...
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. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue. >> in order for us to raise the amount of revenue that's needed just by closing deductions and loopholes for high earners we'd have to, for example, eliminate or severely cap the char itible deduction. >> an obsession to raise taxes not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful spending in washington. >> and meantime, "the new york times" jonathan wiseman reports behind the scene republican leaders are considering the president's plan to extend middle class tax cuts now an address the debt and spending in the new year. here's republican senator tom coburn on "morning joe." >> actually, i would rather see the rates go up than the other way and greater chance to broaden the base in the future. >> do something, a down payment on cuts, on investments and revenue this year. and then in the next year take the time to g
. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue. >> in order for us to raise the amount of revenue that's needed just by closing deductions and loopholes for high earners we'd have to, for example, eliminate or severely cap the char itible deduction. >> an obsession to raise taxes not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing...